Some Things Never Change

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Some Things Never Change
Supertramp - Some Things Never Change.jpg
Studio album by
Released24 March 1997
GenreBlues rock, progressive rock
Oxygen (US)
ProducerJack Douglas, Fred Mandel
Supertramp chronology
The Very Best of Supertramp 2
Some Things Never Change
It Was the Best of Times
Singles from Some Things Never Change
  1. "You Win, I Lose"
    Released: 1997
  2. "Listen to Me, Please"
    Released: 1997

Some Things Never Change is the tenth album by the English rock band Supertramp, released in March 1997.


Some Things Never Change represented a deliberate return to the band's earlier sound (before Free as a Bird), using more organic recording techniques than on their previous studio album.[1] John Helliwell recounted that "we recorded the album in a way that Supertramp never had and that was by all going into the studio together and doing it as a much more live thing."[2]

The album features the single "You Win, I Lose", which was a minor hit in Germany and also received considerable airplay in Canada.[3]

The song "Live to Love You" features both the 'tackled' sound from the Coleco Electronic Quarterback handheld electronic game, as well as the Trouble "Pop-o-matic bubble" sounds from their 1979 hit "The Logical Song".

Cover art[edit]

Rick Davies explained the concept behind the album cover: "It's something to tie in with the title. In England people have tea at four o'clock and it doesn't matter where they are or what sort of social plane they're on, they will have that tea."[1]


Professional ratings
Review scores
AllMusic2/5 stars[4]
Encyclopedia of Popular Music3/5 stars[5]
The Rolling Stone Album Guide1/5 stars[6]

AllMusic commented that the album retains the same style and strong instrumental interplay from the band's glory years, but lacks the "ingratiatingly catchy melodies" of that era, making it of strong interest to the band's fans but much less to casual listeners.[4]

Track listing[edit]

All songs written and sung by Rick Davies except where noted.

Side one
1."It's a Hard World" 9:46
2."You Win, I Lose" 4:31
3."Get Your Act Together" 4:49
4."Live to Love You" 5:18
5."Some Things Never Change" 6:26
6."Listen to Me Please"Rick Davies and Mark Hart4:46
Side two
7."Sooner or Later"Rick Davies and Mark Hart6:50
8."Help Me Down That Road" 4:36
9."And the Light" 4:40
10."Give Me a Chance"Rick Davies and Mark Hart4:24
11."C'est What?" 8:17
12."Where There's a Will" 5:36
Total length:44:17


Additional personnel

  • Bob Danziger – Kalimbas
  • Karen Lawrence – background vocals
  • Kim Nail – background vocals
  • Fred Mandel - guitars on "And The Light" (uncredited as a musician on the cover)


  • Producers: Jack Douglas, Fred Mandel
  • Executive producer: Rick Davies
  • Engineers: Ian Gardiner, Jay Messina
  • Assistant engineers: Ian Gardiner, Mike Scotella
  • Mixing assistant: Roy Clark, Brian Hargrove
  • Mastering: Bob Ludwig
  • Creative director: Richard Frankel
  • Cover art: Dimo Safari
  • Portraits: Dennis Keeley


Certifications and sales[edit]

Region Certification Certified units/sales
France (SNEP)[22] 2× Gold 268,800[21]
Germany (BVMI)[23] Gold 250,000^
Spain (PROMUSICAE)[24] Gold 50,000^
Switzerland (IFPI Switzerland)[25] Platinum 50,000^

^ Shipments figures based on certification alone.


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  4. ^ a b Some Things Never Change at AllMusic
  5. ^ Larkin, Colin (2006). Encyclopedia of Popular Music. 7 (4th ed.). Oxford University Press. p. 857. ISBN 0195313739.
  6. ^ Sheffield, Rob; et al. (2004). Brackett, Nathan; Hoard, Christian (eds.). The New Rolling Stone Album Guide (4th ed.). Simon & Schuster. p. 797. ISBN 0-7432-0169-8.
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  21. ^ "Les Albums Double Or". (in French). SNEP. Archived from the original on 24 November 2011. Retrieved 31 August 2012.
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